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before that roger urged chris christie to run and then there was a report in 2011 that he had urged petraeus. but this recording really takes it to another level because although casey mcfarland and -- they say it was a joke, you can hear her on the recording over and over again you know trying to get information to bring back to roger. it is not like it was just a quick joke at the end of an interview. she asks repeatedly. they talk about would murdoch bankroll it and maybe petraeus was sort of brushing some of it off. but at the same time it seemed like she was really trying to get information to give back to roger who for their own belief, wanted petraeus to run. >> bill: the fact is though, this sort of proves there's no daylight at all between the republican party and roger ailes and fox news, right? they're all part of the same -- is there nothing illegal or wrong with that? i don't know. >> i think you're saying -- i can't think of any other network or tv executive who could get away with something like thi
wal walker. walker. christie out of guarn teen and jeb and the up and coming senators like kelly ayotte. ted cruz from texas. >> bret: susana martinez. >> exactly. a loa lot -- long and inspiring list of the few leaders with ide log call energy and intellectual depth. economassuming our economy is sl around is going to mark an open seat. since 5953. with -- 1953, one party held the white house for two term, they have been kicked out. the one exception is reagan reagan-bush. calendar of history is you get two terms. the other guy will come in. this is a prize and it will bring out, i think, the best young leaders. >> bret: right now, people are tired of the election. but about the messaging and from the speeches did you hear a framing of a new conservative message? >> yes. in a sense the return to old conservative message. but i expect to hear reform conservative a bit in the coming years. what sets apart the people that charles mentioned, particularly these two fellows is the fact that they came to washington -- they ran for office to do something and get stuff done. the republic
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